True Or No?

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
09/14/2016 at 23:39 • Filed to: Movie Night With Blake Z. Rong, Road & Track

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DISCUSSION (35)

Axial > For Sweden
09/14/2016 at 23:44

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens is worse than all of the prequel movies.

Edit: also, true post is true. I cannot stand The Breakfast Club .

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > For Sweden
09/14/2016 at 23:50

The Fast and the furious is just a 10 year remake of point break.

boom

RallyWrench > For Sweden
09/14/2016 at 23:52

True.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > For Sweden
09/14/2016 at 23:56

Untrue

Wheelerguy > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:09

I don’t know, this still feels like a lukewarm take to me.

The hotter take would be:

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Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 00:11

Fast and furious is complete and utter fucking garbage.

for Michigan > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 00:14

Hot Take: Inception is a senseless, pseudo-intellectual action movie.

The Breakfast Club: No clue, never seen it. My experiences with “classic” movies from the 80s and 90s has thus far been rather mixed.

Axial > Wheelerguy
09/15/2016 at 00:17

Phantom Menace was a better movie and I will fight anybody who argues otherwise.

And the hottest take within Star Wars would actually be:

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...because Episode VI is the worst in the prequel trilogy. Ack.

Maybe we’re going about this all wrong. Maybe the real hot take is

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LongbowMkII > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:23

Nah. Attack of the clones>Empire strikes back

Roasted.

for Michigan > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:24

The AotC take is most definitely the hottest. That movie is torturous.

LongbowMkII > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes
09/15/2016 at 00:24

I don't think anyone has ever argued otherwise.

Axial > LongbowMkII
09/15/2016 at 00:27

Sacre bleu!

I was actually serious about the terribleness of Force Awakens, though. The pacing is non-existent, the sound effects are miserable, the plot is contrived, and it’s just an orgy of J.J. Abrams’s typical overdosing on fan-service. Fuck that movie. I will put up with the cornball acting in the prequel trilogy because at least the rest of it is a consistent and decent package.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > LongbowMkII
09/15/2016 at 00:27

People here - your probably right.

Your average “enthusiast” - not so sure.

I still see RIP Paul walker bullshit everywhere.

Wheelerguy > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:29

I only merely showed you what a hotter take looks like. Ep1 is still worse than Ep7, and Ep7 is an adequate Star wars move.

Axial > Wheelerguy
09/15/2016 at 00:30

No, 7 was pretty bad. I have watched it over and over trying to like it, and it never sticks.

Alex Zapata > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 00:32

Untrue.

I think the Lord of the Rings: Return... is objectively a better movie than any of the pseudo artistic films that have won the Oscar to best movie since LotR won.

Another one: Will Smith is not a good actor, he just makes really good dramatic and intense faces, this is proven by Suicide Squad.

Alex Zapata > for Michigan
09/15/2016 at 00:34

Agree on the second part, I would argue it is overly and artificially convoluted, rather than senseless.

The score is fantastic though.

PS9 > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 00:36

Interstellar exploration is an impossible fantasy, made so by the nature of humans themselves; a violent tribalistic cold blooded race, armed with the amazing ability to dissolve common ground and only see the ‘other’ within itself.

We want the stars, but we do not in any way deserve them. This planet, our craddle, will also be our grave.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:44

What, Breakfast Club is great. Were you there to see it new? That may have a bearing.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Axial
09/15/2016 at 00:45

The only way to watch the prequels is with the Phantom Edit, otherwise it’s unwatchable. The new Star Wars was to get the kids who didn’t grow up with the originals to get a sense of the new franchise with the old characters, to pass it on. The next ones look amazing.

for Michigan > Alex Zapata
09/15/2016 at 00:45

A Hans Zimmer score makes just about anything worth watching.

I wouldn’t usually describe the movie the way I did, but he asked for the hottest of hot takes, so I chose more inflammatory adjectives.

The way you stated it is essentially what I was getting at though and I absolutely agree. Still an entertaining movie with great special effects, but not nearly as deep as everyone makes it out to be.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > LongbowMkII
09/15/2016 at 00:46

Kinja'd!!!

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > PS9
09/15/2016 at 00:46

This take was as hot as the vastness of deep space is cold.

Axial > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
09/15/2016 at 00:54

I did not see it new. I saw it at some point in the early ‘00s.

Alex Zapata > for Michigan
09/15/2016 at 01:08

Yup, when I first saw your comment my first impulse was: “Yes, so right, why does no one ever say this?” On closer inspection I came to a different wording for it.

I agree completely though, it’s not a deep movie, it’s just a bunch of crazy shit happening to a Hans Zimmer score, which makes it seem a lot more interesting than it actually is; people just don’t like to enjoy movies for what they are, always trying to find artistic merit and Oscar-worthiness where maybe it doesn’t belong.

Axial > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
09/15/2016 at 01:08

I don’t have a problem with TFA trying to pass the torch. I don’t even have a problem with it essentially being a re-hash of ANH. What I have a problem with are:

The sound effects being too quiet, inconsistent in texture, and feeling like they came out of the newest Star Trek movies with none of the Ben Burt feel carried over.

The score sounding like filler music.

That each scene feels only loosely relevant to the next and is rushed along (that Rathtar scene was way too long for being so utterly meaningless in terms of story and character development, though).

That the Starkiller weapon is ridiculous even within the constraints of Star Wars physics...it somehow traveled light-years instantly and it splits and everybody could see everybody else getting zorched? Tacky.

That J.J. was not allowed to blow up Corsuscant like he originally intended, making that whole death-of-the-Republic scene kind of confusing for established fans.

That Snoke is a stupid name.

That the First Order is not being called what they fucking are: the Imperial Remnant.

That Poe Dameron’s demonstrated piloting ability is cartoonishly good to a degree not shown in any other movie.

Rey really is too good at everything. Sorry, not sorry.

There is more, but suffice it to say it’s just a mountain of small deficiencies. The movie doesn’t develop organically, it’s all forced and artificial. Phantom Menace and its sequels are much better assembled, for all their own flaws.

Now that J.J. is out of the picture, though, I think the films will improve. J.J. should never be allowed to touch established franchises ever again.

RangerSmith > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 01:30

Fight Club isn’t David Fincher’s best movie. The Game is.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > RangerSmith
09/15/2016 at 02:01

I fucking LOVE The Game. I had no idea Fincher directed that. No one I know has seen it either.

Guess Imma have to force ma homies to peep dat stat.

TheRevanchist > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 03:03

The only Vin Diesel movie worth watching is The Pacifier.

MarcHasAnE46 > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 05:44

The breakfast club doesn’t have a single sympathetic character partially because none of them are written with any sort of nuance or depth. It’s heavy handed. And also like why is every John Hughes film so like white? Like do people of color not exist in the Chicago suburbs (save for that entirely offensive “wacky Asian" caricature)?

Honeybunchesofgoats > For Sweden
09/15/2016 at 06:01

Truish. I’ve seen it a bunch of times, I can reference it, but it’s not a movie I would ever watch again for my own enjoyment.

For Sweden > PS9
09/15/2016 at 09:41

Of course one of you would say that -_-

Mercedes Streeter > PS9
09/15/2016 at 09:54

Interstellar was an incredibly fun movie...yet I also agree. I doubt we’ll ever advance to the events of that movie, we will have nuked ourselves into extinction long before then.

Mercedes Streeter > TheRevanchist
09/15/2016 at 09:54

Now THAT is a hot take. lol

RangerSmith > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
09/15/2016 at 21:33

So many twists and turns! And just like the game itself, “I wish I could go back and experience it for the first time.”